Look what I got

Miki · 2023-10-01T21:17:05.516Z

With downloader installed, any time I wanted to record anything I just chose “download” folder under “downloader” as my go to.

TXRon · 2023-10-01T21:18:49.910Z

I know ive used system picker to use a folder as well.

Miki · 2023-10-01T21:20:44.321Z

Yes sir that’s what I did. Been a long time as with apps like Stremio I never needed to record anything, but I understand those that want to for the kids or when traveling and don’t have internet.

terry11 · 2023-10-01T22:23:24.535Z

A couple of things.
When in “system picker” how do you maneuver around the folders.
Do you need mouse toggle?
If I use the record path as mentioned above, “/storage/ etc” where is the storage?
I can record to it but I would like to know where it is and how big it is.
Also, when I choose a folder from my USB, TVM will not allow it to happen.
I get the “Failed to -----” message.
TK

terry11 · 2023-10-02T11:35:28.198Z

OK. Here is my next attempt to see if I can find out WHERE my recordings go.
On my 4KM “My Fire TV” I checked the internal and external space available.
I am assuming that the recordings are going to one of these places.
Internal space available is 10.61 of 12.86 G
External space available is 252 of 252 G .
I am recording 8 hours of UHD on a USA movie network.
That should be enough time to see any movement on the int/ext space.
And the answer is --------
Terry K

Miki · 2023-10-02T13:10:27.696Z

Internal if you didn’t have an external drive formatted for storage and not apps.

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terry11 · 2023-10-02T14:48:46.303Z

Thanks “Miki”.
As I mentioned in my previous post I am using a USB 256G as my external storage, properly
formatted for external storage.
I don’t want to appear to be a nuisance buy repeating my self, but,
I guess it comes down to one question.
Why, when I go to (I am talking about TiviMate now) “Recordings folder”, then I choose
“Select folder” , then I choose “USB drive” (witch has been properly formatted in/on my 4KM)
Then I choose a folder, there are a few so I choose one, I get the message
“Failed to change the recordings folder”?
The instructions SEEM very straight forward
And the recordings DID go to the internal storage.
I record a lot of stuff for my wife and myself, that is why I use an external USB drive.
With my previous 4KM i was able to choose a folder on my USB drive to record to.
But now with my new 4KM I can’t.
Terry K

terry11 · 2023-10-02T15:24:51.486Z

One more tidbit of info.
I have two 256G USB drives
One new one that I am trying to use with my new 4KM.
The other one I have been using all along on my older 4KM.
Thinking that maybe the NEW 256 may have different looking(to the TiviMate) files
I removed it and plugged in my orig 256 with lots of recordings.
The new 4KM recognized the orig 256.
But, I have the same issue when trying to send TiviMate recordings to it as well.
TK

elginherd · 2023-10-02T15:56:03.193Z

If you want an easy, convenient way to deal with recording, finding a file, adding room for apps, the Fire devices are not the best choice.

terry11 · 2023-10-02T16:44:36.742Z

Thanks “elginherd” for the reply.
I guess it comes down to this:
Has any one using the NEW Fire Stick 4KMax, and, running TiviMate ver 4.7.0 (Premium),
been able to choose a “USB drive” file folder, NOT " internal shared storage"
and record to it?
If so, would you PLEASE let me know how you did it!!!
You can post it here, witch would help anyone else in my predicament or by a PM.
Thank you in advance.
Terry Knapper

TXRon · 2023-10-02T16:53:52.012Z

I posted 3 links yesterday from AFTV news that talks about the fire devices and storage issues with workarounds.

terry11 · 2023-10-02T17:39:47.037Z

Thanks “XRon”. I will look into that.
In the mean time, I have an idea. I will post how it works
Terry K

terry11 · 2023-10-02T18:24:01.349Z

I tried renaming one of my file folders on my 4KM.USB 256 external drive.
I named it “Recordings”; since the last entry on the TiviMate folder path is Recordings".
No go.
The path shown on the TVM folder path is
“/storage/emulated/0/Download/TiviMate/Recordings”
In my mind somewhere in this path tells the recordings to go to “internal storage”.
Here is the path that WORKS with my older 4KM.
“/storage/F435-1A00/LOST.DIR”
This path sends all my recordings to the external 256 USB drive.
In THAT USB is a file called " LOST.DIR" , and, that is where all my recordings are.
I double checked this with the USB drive when I put it in my laptop.
TK
BTW thanks for the link info.
It doesn’t really address my issue.
Again the MUST be, at lest, on person that has done what I want to do.
Since Troy put this option of using external storage for recordings, it has to be able to be done.
TK

Jayhawks659 · 2023-10-02T21:30:35.100Z

Did you use the system picker option when selecting your storage folder? If memory serves me correctly, this is an OS issue dealing with security restrictions rather than a storage or formatting issue.

terry11 · 2023-10-02T21:52:41.372Z

I can’t maneuver in the “picker” option with my remote.
Did you use a mouse toggle type setup?

terry11 · 2023-10-03T19:34:32.340Z

Well here it is.
After a lot of testing by me and a guy that has a lot more expertise than me
with Fire Sticks and TiviMate it appears to be in the OS of the new,2nd gen, 4KM.
He was able to set up his “stuff” exactly the same as me(finally some one who would)
with the exact same result as me.
My final test was formatting my USB drive in the 2nd gen 4KM, removing the USB, putting it
in my previous 4KM. I was able to pick a folder to record to; recorded to it , all was good.
What can I say.
Terry K

Jayhawks659 · 2023-10-04T00:11:32.499Z

Yes, I used a Bluetooth mini keyboard with a mouse pad.

AJS1 · 2023-10-04T02:32:04.037Z

Ah se nono comprende, I need sinco pesos!

Rippleffect · 2023-10-04T03:21:19.479Z

The following information will help answer your dilemma to why you can save recordings on external with your “old” 4K Firestick Max and NOT your new 2023 4K Firestick Max.

2023 Fire TV Stick 4K Max is showcasing the new Fire OS 8 operating system. Fire OS 8 is powered by Android 11.

Whereas,
Your “old” Max is using Fire OS 7, which is powered by Android 9.

Android 11 introduced new security protocols that no longer allow saving to external. This has been a known issue since Android 11 came out.

Android 9 allows for saving to external. Best to keep these older devices handy.

terry11 · 2023-10-04T11:29:17.298Z

Thanks “Rippleeffect”.
So I guess that Android 11 is now the “Golden Child”.
All this being the way it is NOW, Android 11 and FS 4KMax will never change any
security protocols. They do not consider this an issue at all !!
Thanks again “R”
Terry K
p.s
I guess my question would be, is this an issue that will be addressed
or is this the way it always will be?

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