Avid08
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I not sure you know how Tivimate works. On Tivimate you can collapse each playlist so you only see the name and hide all the categories(see pic)
Then just open whichever playlist list you want to browse. The most playlists I have had installed was 5 and I didnāt notice any issues. I currently have 3 running at the moment. I have changed the name of them to 1 2 3 so I donāt reveal the name of the services as I think it may break the rules
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How does this compare to the vSeeBox V5 PRO?
Ok, I didnāt know I could compact the playlist honestly, & now that I see this I wonder why I didnāt discover that. That is a common use when you see the V but I simply missed it. MOL3 is just so much more user friendly. Thanks for the heads up. I donāt have to open/close the folders of the playlists as MOL3 has itās own playlist row that doesnāt exist in TiviMate. When I got my very first Formuler I used TiviMate primarily but after awhile I discovered MOL3 not only looks a little better view wise, itās far more user friendly. I can get to things much easier using MOL3. I didnāt realize this at first, but now MOL3 is all I use really. having the extra line of playlists to the left to highlight & immediately get to the one I want is so much more simple, & puts you right at the beginning of the playlist when highlighted. My friend used TiviMate also 100% like me until he got his first Formuler, & now only uses MOL3. The use of both can throw you a curve ball as you hit select or up/down arrows to pull up guide, but TiviMate you hit the back button. Causes some messing with your mind if you will. Hitting the back button on MOL3 will take you to the previous channel you were watching before the one your on.
Miki
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Again, not sure where you are getting your info but you are entirely incorrect. Itās simply a matter of you donāt know how to use TiVimate. If you use the site search you will find a full manual for TiVimate. But itās good that you find MOL3 to your liking. I wonāt explain further. Enjoy.
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The very first thing I would recommend to anyone is never buy the Pro, buy the Pro Max. I have 4 Formuler Z11ās, 3 are Maxās & one is just the Pro. I bought the pro as I got a great price on it, but wish I hadnāt tried to save a few bucks. Upon using Aida 64 & looking at the ram, even if you force stop & clear cache on everything you will only have a little over 400 meg left to run things. NOT enough in my book. Even without force stopping & clearing cache on the Max you will have over 2 gig free. Night & day difference on how well it operates as this causes a lot of lag in the pro. You can force stop & clear the cache out on all your apps to help it along, but it still will lag some. The marketplace is mostly a joke as itās old app versions of what is has within it but will have the latest versions of Formulerās MOL3 & the remote app in it & I believe is the only real reason it is there to give customers access to their specific software. There is an audio optimizer it wants downloaded, but it does work well & you never have to mess with it once installed, & as you know it asked for it once you got your box up & running. The launcher is pretty proprietary but I actually love itās design. You can create up to 11 rows, name them whatever you wish & organize it very easily. I donāt see a problem with it, but it must not be to your liking. Maybe your struggling with how to work with it possibly? Feel free to PM me with any questions you have & if I can I will help any way I can. Why would you hit menu & exit to get to home screen? Just simply hit the home button & your there. Now this being said there are some apps such as TiviMate where you hit the back button twice to get back to the home screen, but this is often app dependent. In Mol3 you just hit the home button to close that app out. I donāt ever use the sleep features so I canāt comment on that. When I am done with it I simply turn it off. I donāt use much VOD, but most likely your missing some things that are accessible but in a different way. The Formuler forum https://www.formuler-support.tv/ & the helpdesk Home - Formuler Helpdesk both have a lot of helpful information. I had to dig it up when I bought the first Max as nowhere is told that they turn on the parental lock & use 4 zeros as default for the code & is set turned on right out of the box. I found this info using one of these sites. Formuler is bad for communication but using these sites will have great info on them. I have no clue what a Nass client even is so I do not know if this is workable on Formuler or not. I installed duck duck go on my Formuler & always use a REAL mouse, not the one included in the Formuler remote. Although that mouse is great for some things, to navigate the internet a real mouse is needed. Your right on the media browser they include, itās a joke. The MOL3 app is very slow to load up the first time after turning on the box & this is true for the Pro & the Pro Max. That is a pain to wait so long the first time but it is that way. The lag your encountering on the multiple playlists is unexplained but my pro lags quite often on everything I am doing with it at least to some extent. I never thought it was such a memory hog that 2 gig isnāt enough to enable it to run effectively but it is. Ram is so critical to keep things running smoothly allowing it to think quickly for each thing of what it is doing I should have never considered cutting myself short of that extra 2 gig in the Max. As you can see in this photo, I have all my apps on my home page organized the way I want them. You can move/edit/name all of it any way you wish, & there are many wallpapers to choose from or you can load your own in to it. When it comes to their launcher I am perfectly happy with itās design, & itās extremely easy to work with. I have never had the desire or need to try to use another 3rd party launcher. As far as google goes I love this device as I block/disable everything google. They suck in my opinion. I use Aurora store for all of google play apps among many other apps to get what I want to run, keeping googles I spy garbage out of my box. The Max is a night & day difference as far as speed goes as I learned my lesson the hard way. It cranks through everything just fine having the 4 gig of ram. I had my friend text me the other day struggling to use his MOL3 app. He couldnāt figure out how to get out of where he was, which he tripped in to the radio of the app. He had rebooted, stop app/cleared cache but stuck in the radio part of the app, but totally forgot the hamburger menu button to get back to live tv. We both got a laugh out of this, but there are differences with access to things so always try other buttons to access what your looking for. Itās super easy once you get on to it, but does cause some mind confusion. To me it is far better once you get the odd things sorted out as the access is actually better, but different. It took me some time to realize this. If you look at this photo & you canāt get your launcher to look anything like this, then you might need some help.
Thank you so much for your advice. I watched the installation video you mentioned, but it wasnāt really necessary. Iāve been working with PCs and PC technologies day and night for 40 years. Iām very good at software and hardware. Iāve used seven different TV boxes before, including an Nvidia Shield 4K TV box. Formuler Z11 is generally a good TV box, but it has a lot of software bugs. I tested the Formuler Z11 day and night for two months. I found these 14 bugs. I sent five emails to three different Formuler centers from England to Spain, explaining these bugs. I explained these bugs and asked them to fix them and release a new update. I also opened a thread on Formulerās official website three times. Unfortunately, no one could help. Some users tried to help, but their advice and suggestions didnāt work. Unfortunately, Formuler officials wonāt fix the bugs. And they have no responsibility or concern for that anyway. Remove the IPTV Player feature from Formuler Z11. Itās no different from the Mi TV Box. Thank you again.
Miki
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I use TiVimate and it is an app. Whether or not clicking the home button returns you to the home screen is not dependent on the app, itās dependent on the device. On my P6L when running TiVimate and watching a stream I click my home button on my remote and it immediately closes out TiVimate and opens my home screen. I just want to make sure I correct the misinformation so that those wanting to use TiVimate donāt take your negative comments as being fact, they arenāt. Please just focus on MOL3 that you love and ignore TiVimate that you donāt know how to use. Tx.
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Please donāt get me wrong here as I donāt dislike TiviMate at all, itās just the differences between them. I wish MOL3 had more color choices like TiviMate does for an example as it is very limited. TiviMate has far more customizable options than MOL3 does too. Many things missing that I wish MOL3 had. I am not trying to put TiviMate down because I use the back button twice to exit as I am not. I usually exit this way by preference when I use it. I do know how to use Tivimate but there are some things I havenāt used or certain things I havenāt found. Isnāt that why we we are all here? I much appreciate learning things as others do also. sometimes that long press of a button allows more things which is a hidden thing also, & vary in apps. Every app has itās features & vary much between them. Apps are sometimes different to have multiple ways to exit in many different ways to get back to home screen. TiviMate is actually a plus to have another way to exit. Nothing wrong with that.
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MikeN
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The only way to get support is via āAsk Questions to Formuler AIā chat - asks for issue, then creates support ticket
see screenshot - itās at the bottom right
Miki
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Sorry if I came across as saying you donāt like TiVimate, that isnāt what I said. I was trying to make the point that most of your comments about what TiVimate does and doesnāt do are entirely incorrect. For example: āNow this being said there are some apps such as TiviMate where you hit the back button twice to get back to the home screen, but this is often app dependent. In Mol3 you just hit the home button to close that app outā The same does go for Tivimate, you simply hit the home button to close it out. I donāt want others to read your comments and then decide that TiVimate wonāt work for them based upon what youāve said. Yes please learn, I am a thousand percent for that, and should you require help with learning how to use TiVimate, I would be delighted to point you, in the right direction. The site has a huge data base of comments, articles, tutorials and videos to assist you in that endeavor, and using the search is an excellent place to start. Welcome to the Insider and I do hope you enjoy the community here and have fun doing so.
I didnāt describe the back twice to exit clearly that it is an extra way to go home besides the home button. Sometimes I am in thought of the things I do with it and failed to mention it is an additional way to exit. I use it that way when I am looking through the guide & then decide to exit the app. Seeing it come up at bottom saying to hit back again to exit when you hit it the first time got me to doing it.
Miki
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If watching the preview in TiVimate it actually takes 4 clicks of the back/return arrow to get to the home screen of your device. If watching a full screen feed it takes 5.
I like many others I am disappointed that there isnāt a faster CPU/GPU or more ram/faster speed ram, but then I began thinking of the Android 12 over the 11 & if that alone may improve things. 12 is supposed to be better with closing background apps & some video improvements from what I have read. Also I wonder if although the CPU is the same, does it have a better version of that chip & possible improvements to rev things up, & or maybe version improvements for GPU also? There might be some positive improvements here we really do not see in the specs. If there is indeed ample motherboard improvements/integration of hardware combined with the upgrade to Android 12 it may be better than we are thinking, or at least some improvement. It would be cool to maybe run geekbench on it against the Z11 Pro Max to see what all the tests show in comparison. Will it be worth the extra cost? I have my doubts, but also have hope it will be.
Is there a monthly charge for the MYOLTV3 service ? I primarily use boxes for live sports. Earlier this year I bought a SuperBox 6 Pro for about $279 but thereās no monthly charge for the TV service
MikeN
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No - MYTVOnline app is free on Formuler devices.
There is no service - you have to get an IPTV service to use.
They are only available on devices they come with - you cannot download newer version on older devices. It will receive updates / bug fixes.
Current version is MYTVOnline 3 - Z11 pro series, Z mini and now Z12 ultra have this app.
Older devices will continue working fine with the final version of MYTVOnline app they came with.
This is a loaded box - they sold the device with free IPTV service
If you are lucky, it will be fine for a few years but I would be surprised if it will be free as they will have fees to pay for the service they loaded on the box
Troypoint view on loaded box -
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Yeah the way I see it if I get one season of baseball then it was worth the price . How much would cable tv cost to get a baseball package for the season? Besides , living in Vegas Iām out of market and canāt watch my team in new York. Every provider says the same thing ā¦ā¦sorry, youāre out of market . If I have to then I guess Iāll buy another if needed. But I think Iām good for a while. I still see ppl using their s5 box with no issue .
MikeN
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You can do better - get a good device and service - really good IPTV services start from $30 per year.
You can also install the service on any device you want including mobile phones / ipads / tablets
Look out for Troyās review of devices after he tests them.
You are right that for one season you are doing better than paying the MLB package. But as @MikeN says you can do a lot better. You could pick up an ONN 4K Pro for about $50 and get a good unverified IPTV service. This is not the locked thread but the one Troy was promoting is quite good and at $32/year has all the MLB games. I donāt recommend going the loaded box route for reasons Troy mentions in above article
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I have an onn pro and 3 onn 4k boxes. I used to use standalone IPTV service but they all started switching to Bitcoin payments only which I do not do. Thatās why I ended up buying a SuperBox. Like I said, even if I only got one season of baseball out of it and the service went belly up Iām still ahead money-wise . Do you have a link to the thread for the service that Troy spoke of? And do you know if they take credit card payments ? Thank you 
